Private dental care fails millions in Ontario


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  1. colin goodfellow

    The ongoing misrepresentation of provider ownership structure (public vrs private) and access and coverage is unhelpful. This deliberate confusion/ conflation of these distinct attributes is one of the main reasons the public provision of health services in Ontario and ROC is so difficult to improve and continues to fall further behind in the OECD tables. The defintional confusion is driven and funded by stakeholder’s self interest in the “public” provider/ payer health system. Shame for putting self interest ahead of collective interests as progressives continue the decade and a half slide into being a reactionary voice. I can only hope that millennials will see through this ruse and begin to move forward again.

    • Yalonda

      Hi Colin,

      Could you please explain what you mean by this?

      Thank you.

  2. R. Czech

    So many people go to a DDS when they are in pain yet when they get there they are forced to go through a calculated process which costs more than the original reason and lines the dentists pockets. Initial exam, full series of xr’s etc which eats up so much money before they can have their pain looked after. The consultants have convinced the dentists to use this “system” instead of dealing with the pain and then having the patient return for further work. Can you imagine if you went to a physician for a sore knee and they forced you to have full body scans etc (and pay for them) before even looking at the knee, and don’t forget the high pressured sales performed by treatment co-ordinators who are more interested in how you will be paying for treatment? Not professional……

  3. Bev Woods

    Dental Hygienists are Making a Difference every year when they Open their HEARTS and Clinics to participate in the “Gift from the Heart”. This is a one day event every year, where dental hygienists provide FREE dental hygiene care to those in their communities that need it the most. The working poor, seniors, those with special needs, and the list goes on and on.
    We all know of people in our towns and cities that just cannot afford dental hygiene care. We will the government realize that healthcare does not start at our tonsils!. Healthcare must include oral health care! Oral Health is linked to overall health!
    Stand up and voice your concern! Dental Hygiene business owners are an integrate part of our healthcare system.

  4. Cheryl Zellitt

    The Dental Professionals do not have a bias as to one’s economic status and are the key at prevention in their field. I have been fortunate over 26 years as a Registered Dental Hygienist to work from babies to seniors alike and am happy as needed to refer to Public Health, Healthy Smiles, or CINOT if need be. My bosses at North York Smile Centre, Dr.’s Rob Eisen, Jerry Jesin and James Ko and our team of excellent Dental Assistants and Hygienists and admin staff are partners with all of our clients in this regard. If there is something one cannot afford, we will definitely point the client in the right direction. Many other private dentists will do the same: Dr. Saul Hafner, Concord, ON, Sleep For Dentistry Dr. Peter Nkansah, Dr. David Isen, Newtonbrook Dental Dr. Mark Safari Brownsline Dental, Etobicoke, ON…and the list goes on. With the links to Dementia, Lung Disease, Diabetes and Cardiovascular problems in relation to oral health, we are your first step at prevention in your oral health care. Saving you money and time in the long run. We look forward to meeting and helping you soon.
    Cheryl Zellitt RDH
    Hygiene -4_Hire
    Toronto and outlying areas

    • R. Czech

      Just out of curiosity….after reading your comment I understand that you say you are happy to REFER patients to Public Health, HSO and CINOT. That’s great… The programs you mention are for children not adults. How do you treat these unfortunate adult members of your own community when what is at issue is FINDING a dentist who will treat them? We all know these programs exist…..the issue is FINDING a dentist in private practice that accepts these programs. What about all those who do not qualify for these programs? You say “we will definitely point them in the right direction”……..does that mean that your office doesn’t treat them either? In bigger cities there are better chances of clinics…….not so in most of the province. Everybody is happy to refer…bottom line is that nobody wants to treat them.

  5. Gail Marion, RDH

    http://rnao.ca/policy/action-alerts/ask-premier-wynne-to-expand-public-dental-programs
    Medical providers have collected the evidence “Every nine minutes, someone goes to an Ontario ER with a dental complaint. In 2015, there were almost 61,000 ER visits for oral health problems at a public cost of at least $31 million. In addition, there were almost 222,000 visits in 2014 to physicians (not including other primary care providers) for dental problems at a public cost of at least $7.5 million. These visits to ER and primary care may provide people temporary relief through treatment with painkillers and antibiotics, but their dental problems will not be resolved. Immediate investments should be made in prevention and treatment. Addressing the oral health needs of all Ontarians will have physical, mental, and social benefits, and lead to more equitable access to oral health services.” Dental Hygiene Care should be provided to everyone starting at age 1 ~ prevention and interception of minor problems is best for overall health and fiscally responsible.

  6. Itay Yahel

    It’s not just cost it’s also trust you feel like you are going to collision centre without knowing the real cost of the services you need also most of the time you have to pay everything in one payment and there’s no really great health insurance that can cover all you need, however I can help with some health insurance can defently can help with the cost. We’re paying big bills and taxes people should ask our province and federal for what, since each year we’re getting less with no real explanation, hope people will raise their voice now.

    Happy Canada day, still Canada is the best spite of our leaders that most of them know how to talk and maybe to smile…

    Itay Yahel

  7. R. Czech

    In my town of 17,000, dentists routinely deny services to ODSP and Ontario Works patients by quite simply stating that their “Quota has been filled or that they do not accept specialty insurances” I’m so very happy that in some areas peoples’ needs are being met but in some (or should I say most?) communities in Ontario they are being sadly neglected. My practice is in the same building of a shelter and I turn them away daily due to the inability to help them in any way. Throwing out a bunch of names of practices for the purpose of self-advertising also does not help when the majority of clients live so far away with believe it or not, minimal public transit available in order to access these practices.

  8. Raymond

    Excellent critiques of the situation that the general public is facing involving Dental Health Care involving most Dentists. Some are very caring and silently devote time and skill to look after needy patients. As a senior, I have not seen a “Dentist” since 2004 as costs are above what I can afford, and I refuse to support the lifestyle or ego’s of Dentists building Empires of 20 or 30 employees. Many have become “Business” owners, being advised by non-medical consultants, and have lost site of the profession of dental health care.

  9. Marjorie

    So true. I did not see a dentist for 6 years…could not afford it!!!

  10. Anon

    – ODSP has not raised the fee guide since 2009
    – 45 million dental fund in 2009 was partially used for sport and smoke free ontario programs
    – ODSP two tiered payment system for dentist/dental hygienist (independent) highly unfair
    – Many dentists in Urban areas do accept ODSP
    – preventive care can be extended to low cost dental hygiene clinics to alleviate “stigma” concerns and allow further access to preventive care
    – private dentists should be allowed limited lower fee guides to service restorative and extractions at minimum. For access to care.

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